You know why we Germans are so pedantic about data protection? Someone around 90 years ago went through all records available, selected people with certain criteria, with the help of IBM, and then killed them all.
We don't want to be on any list.
And now the US Gov and Musk are trying to get access to all data they have about every person and put them into a big fat DB and run AI over it.
I am afraid what they will do with that.
@bitboxer With the help of IBM? Do you have a source for that?
And let's not forget that US media, i.e. the New York Times, were initially quite enthusiatic about Hitler.
Something that's rarely talked about.
@proscience @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave and that early Hitlers attorneys thought the systemic discrimination in the US is too crass.
@Leendaal @proscience @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave
FYI: Ken Burns covered our part in the Holocaust.
@proscience @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave but a matter of historical record nonetheless.
@SaanichGuy @bitboxer @MrLaCave @fenkt are you speaking in the past or present tense?
@SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave (Economic) liberals ALWAYS support fascism. Fascism is the ultimate form of neoliberalism.
@ZoidbergForPresident @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave it would really be great at this point in time to have a more lucid and intricate analysis of fascism than this
@pleadthefif @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave History showed that already. And is currently repeating itself. Wake up.
@pleadthefif @ZoidbergForPresident @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave cave man with stick + tech = fascism
@linchiao @pleadthefif @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave That's so insulting to cavemen actually... XP
@ZoidbergForPresident @pleadthefif @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave
Liberalism is the road to fascism and neoliberalism is the motorway equivalent?
@SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave I will never be thankful enough to US for helping my country (Italy) to get rid of fascists. Yet I have to say that the fight against racism was all but the target of USA in the '40s. The Republican Constitution of 1948 swept away all form of racism from Italy's law. Other European countries did the same. USA had to wait the '60s for declaring racial segregation a crime.
If you read the black American writers (and musicians) - Wright, Baldwin, etc - that washed up in Paris after the war, the experience they describe is escape from the burden of US systemic prejudice and discrimination. Baldwin was also gay. They spent a lot of time with Sartre and DeBeauvoir - and at the First International Congress of Negro Writers & Artists in Paris in 1956 Wright was the only speaker to complain about the near absence of black women writers. There were very direct, personal lines from the post-war experience of liberation in Europe to the black civil rights, 'women's lib' and gay liberation movements in the US in the 60s.
@zooropa @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt Now the US is helping fascists like Meloni or the AfD to come back...
https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/elon-musk-fascism-europe
@SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave maybe you are right.
But, as far as I can see, Musk and Trump are way nearer to what I call fascism than Meloni has never been.
@zooropa @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave Isn't Meloni now also a fascist or at least extremely right-wing?
@leobm @zooropa @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave "She’s often cast as a pragmatist, yet her planned constitutional rewrite and attacks on media challenge the narrative of a benign moderate turn."
https://jacobin.com/2024/06/giorgia-meloni-democracy-media-authoritarianism
@leobm @SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave
Yes she is far right and anti communist/socialist but, at least she publicy addressed fascism as 'evil' more than once. She's a EU/Ukraine supporter and on the "anti Putin" side. Very different from (just for saying) Victor Orban. There are other italian leaders (Salvini) in her same side that are closer to Putin, Trump and Orban.
Yup. Here's another one.
"One of the first American businessmen Hitler received after taking power in 1933 was Sosthenes Behn, then the CEO of ITT".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sosthenes_Behn
Not difficult. A leader who wants to build a very large & successful army, needs soldiers to communicate with each other, ie telephones.
@SaanichGuy @bitboxer @fenkt @MrLaCave
and 1 million in new yorks bundt meeting at the Garden.....
@wonofone @MrLaCave @floe @bitboxer Those I knew already, IBM was indeed new to me. In general all Ultra Rich in Germany have a dark history #taxtherich
@MrLaCave @wonofone @floe @bitboxer
Because of technicians having a big role in keeping the concentration camps open and the selection for killing, after the war the VDI set up the engineer's creed (Bekenntnis des Ingenieurs).
https://x.com/tbsprs/status/1046444444122255361?lang=bg&mx=2
(sorry for the X link, VDI only has the newest version online)
@WiseWoman @MrLaCave @wonofone @floe @bitboxer Thanks, if you don't want to link to xshitter replace X with Xcancel
https://xcancel.com/
@joaopinheiro @mbpaz @MrLaCave @bitboxer Thanks, this will be my next rabbit hole
@joaopinheiro and then Prescott Bush
@chapulin Yet, another one!
And they provided the tech support for those machines, so when the nazis wanted to know stuff like: can we create a category for say; religion
They where the ones that explained how.
Also they continued to supply parts for those machines even after the US entered the war via a subsidiary company in switzerland.
@csgraves @MrLaCave @bitboxer No, in Germany we learned only about IG Farben and the big Car Companies like BMW which provided Armoury https://troet.cafe/@MrLaCave/114025453259063340