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ZZ Bottom<p><a href="https://c.im/tags/News" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>News</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Resist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Resist</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/NaziUSA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NaziUSA</span></a> <a href="https://c.im/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> Now!!!<br><a href="https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-400-year-veto-supreme-court-5a1be188f78ab5e4223b2c7c7ad3ca7d" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">apnews.com/article/wisconsin-4</span><span class="invisible">00-year-veto-supreme-court-5a1be188f78ab5e4223b2c7c7ad3ca7d</span></a></p>
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦<p>denying <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/FEMA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>FEMA</span></a> funds, just like the abortion ban and attacks on transgender women, are a a forced <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a>.</p><p>this is what <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/CivilWar" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>CivilWar</span></a> looks like by guys who’ve never had to sign up to join the Army and, instead, use money to kill their opponents. this is what Civil War looks like when waged behind desks by criminals in business suits. </p><p><a href="https://toad.social/@tend2wobble/114348347908071130" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">toad.social/@tend2wobble/11434</span><span class="invisible">8347908071130</span></a></p>
Inside the Red Head's Head<p><strong>How Do We Make it&nbsp;Happen?</strong></p><p>How do we make this happen? Do the Governors need to start the conversation at the state level? Does the senators and representatives need to start the conversation at the federal level? What do we need to do?</p><p><a href="https://bsky.app/profile/robj1971.bsky.social/post/3lmsp77en3f2t" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://bsky.app/profile/robj1971.bsky.social/post/3lmsp77en3f2t</a></p><p><a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://robertjames1971.blog/tag/how-do-we-make-secession-happen/" target="_blank">#howDoWeMakeSecessionHappen</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://robertjames1971.blog/tag/politics/" target="_blank">#Politics</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://robertjames1971.blog/tag/secede-from-the-union/" target="_blank">#secedeFromTheUnion</a> <a rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" class="hashtag u-tag u-category" href="https://robertjames1971.blog/tag/secession/" target="_blank">#secession</a></p>
DoomsdaysCW<p>Hubby, who used to teach American history, reminded me of the <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/HartfordConvention" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>HartfordConvention</span></a> from 1814-15. <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Maine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maine</span></a>, <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Massachusetts" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Massachusetts</span></a>, <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Vermont" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Vermont</span></a>, <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Connecticut" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Connecticut</span></a>, <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NewHampshire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NewHampshire</span></a> and <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/RhodeIsland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RhodeIsland</span></a> had considered leaving the union and forming their own "independent republic" in opposition to "political problems arising from the federal government's increasing power. "</p><p>Excerpt:<br>"Some delegates may have been in favor of New England's <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> from the United States and forming an <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/independent" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>independent</span></a> republic, though no solution was adopted at the convention. Historian Samuel Eliot Morison rejected the notion that the Hartford convention was an attempt to take New England out of the Union and give treasonous aid and comfort to Britain. Morison wrote: 'Democratic politicians, seeking a foil to their own mismanagement of the war and to discredit the still formidable Federalist party, caressed and fed this infant myth until it became so tough and lusty as to defy both solemn denials and documentary proof.' "</p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Convention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford</span><span class="invisible">_Convention</span></a> </p><p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/USHistory" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USHistory</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Histodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Histodon</span></a></p>
DoomsdaysCW<p><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Impeachment" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Impeachment</span></a> or <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a>. Either way, the nightmare needs to END!!!<br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a></p>
DoomsdaysCW<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://infosec.exchange/@wolfinpdx" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>wolfinpdx</span></a></span> It was an interesting 200+ year experiment, but now Trump is doing EVERYTHING the founding fathers warned us about! <br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/TrumpIsABully" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>TrumpIsABully</span></a></p>
DoomsdaysCW<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@debrashannon" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>debrashannon</span></a></span> So yeah, the idea has been floated around. Vermont and New Hampshire would have an easier time of it, but it's not impossible. To not allow states to secede, especially under the rule of a MAD KING, is like forcing someone to stay in an abusive relationship, and not allowing them to get a divorce!<br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a></p>
DoomsdaysCW<p>Add <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Maine" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Maine</span></a> to this, please!</p><p>Four States Could Secede From US and Join <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Canada" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Canada</span></a> to Avoid Trump—Democrat</p><p>Published Nov 29, 2024</p><p>A prominent Democratic New York State "Senator has floated the fanciful proposition that her state and its northeastern neighbors secede from the United States to join Canada to avoid President-elect Donald Trump's return to office.</p><p>"Liz Krueger, who chairs the New York State Senate Finance Committee, argued that the Empire State, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Vermont, could all suffer under Trump's new administration.</p><p>"Citing his proposed crackdown on immigration and promise of mass deportation, the Manhattan Democrat believes liberal and sanctuary states such as New York could be threatened with cuts in the amount of federal funding they receive, a move the incoming leader and his cabinet have suggested, should states oppose new policy measures.</p><p>"This is not the first time the New York Democrat has offered up a radical and improbable plan to counter Trump's policies, suggesting in September, ahead of his election win, that the bloc of blue states should join Canada.</p><p>" 'I thought I would suggest to Canada that instead of us all trying to illegally cross the border at night without them noticing, which is pretty hard because there's a lot of us, that they should instead agree to let us be the southeast province, a new province of Canada.</p><p>" 'And I offered, even though I hadn't gotten agreement from other states yet, that I thought New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont, would combine and be a great new province as the southeast province of Canada,' Krueger said in an interview with news site City and State New York." </p><p><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/four-states-could-secede-join-canada-avoid-trump-says-democrat-1993528" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">newsweek.com/four-states-could</span><span class="invisible">-secede-join-canada-avoid-trump-says-democrat-1993528</span></a><br><a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/NewEngland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NewEngland</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Canada" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Canada</span></a> <a href="https://kolektiva.social/tags/Resistance" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Resistance</span></a></p>
Bruce MacDonald<p>“We will be similar to Monaco.”</p><p>A lot going on here—</p><p>"The story of the Republic of Kinney is one of dismissed town needs, a wacky, bar-born plan and the power of media attention. It involves a feisty mayor with an eye toward the limelight, a pizza roll magnate with a spare car, and printed passports logged into a loose-leaf binder."<br><a href="https://www.startribune.com/republic-of-kinney-minnesota-iron-range-history/601328614" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">startribune.com/republic-of-ki</span><span class="invisible">nney-minnesota-iron-range-history/601328614</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Minnesota" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Minnesota</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/history" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>history</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/IronRange" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>IronRange</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/nonsense" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>nonsense</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a></p>
your auntifa liza 🇵🇷 🦛 🦦<p>BTW all this “markets” devastation is billionaires nazis revenge against mother Earth for killing their "seasteading" dreams. so, instead, they want to break the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> and <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Canada" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Canada</span></a> into separate fiefdoms. </p><p>DO NOT MAKE ME TELL YOU IN 10 YEARS TIME, “TOLDYA”</p><p>billionaires are waging a non-conventional <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> and colonialist war. </p><p>Americans will have to end billionaires in equally non-conventional ways, starting with the USA maths for a billion. </p><p>it’s as real as daylight savings time.</p>
Rod2ik 🇪🇺 🇨🇵 🇪🇸 🇺🇦 🇨🇦 🇩🇰 🇬🇱<p>Gov. Gavin <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/newson" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>newson</span></a> asked that <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/California" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>California</span></a> to be exempted from other countries retaliatory <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/tariffs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>tariffs</span></a></p><p><a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/calexit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>calexit</span></a></p><p>I thought the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/war" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>war</span></a> had solved this...</p><p>Is another <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/war" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>war</span></a> coming ?</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/5d8aO2wOV6o?si=GCQG4ihvKVTDkgkt" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">youtu.be/5d8aO2wOV6o?si=GCQG4i</span><span class="invisible">hvKVTDkgkt</span></a></p>
Hotspur🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦<p>So we've all heard about the Calexit movement...they're collecting signatures to authorize a ballot initiative for California to secede from the US.</p><p>I've since learned that other secession movements are gathering steam. The Cascadia movement wants Washington and Oregon to join with CA and form a new nation. A New York/New Jersey movement is brewing, and there's a campaign for a Republic of New England, to incorporate MA, VT, NH, ME, CT, and RI.</p><p>Interestingly, the Texas secessionists, who raise their heads every so often, seem to be quiet. And there's likely others that I am unaware of.</p><p>A Balkanization of the US is scary, to be sure, but at the same time, many have predicted it for a while. A common thread is taxation...not that taxes are too high, but that these states, which are among those that pay the highest in taxes, get little in return, and some are angry over what they feel is subsidizing the rest of the country.</p><p>Is it coming? I'm not sure, but if the country continues to destabilize, it may be inevitable.</p><p>Cheery thoughts for a Tuesday morning...</p><p><a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Politics</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Balkanization" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Balkanization</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Cascadia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Cascadia</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/RepublicOfNewEngland" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>RepublicOfNewEngland</span></a> <a href="https://social.vivaldi.net/tags/Scary" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Scary</span></a></p>
2tout2rien<p>Jacob C. Miller et son trou de balle entre les deux yeux <br><a href="https://www.2tout2rien.fr/jacob-c-miller-et-son-trou-de-balle-entre-les-deux-yeux/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">2tout2rien.fr/jacob-c-miller-e</span><span class="invisible">t-son-trou-de-balle-entre-les-deux-yeux/</span></a><br><a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/19%C3%A8meSi%C3%A8cle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>19èmeSiècle</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Ann%C3%A9es1860" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Années1860</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/balle" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>balle</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/bataille" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>bataille</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/blessure" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>blessure</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/Chickamauga" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Chickamauga</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/cr%C3%A2ne" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>crâne</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/front" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>front</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/guerre" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>guerre</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/histoire" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>histoire</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/imxok" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>imxok</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/JacobC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>JacobC</span></a>.Miller <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/NoirEtBlanc" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>NoirEtBlanc</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/op%C3%A9ration" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>opération</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/soldat" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>soldat</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/trou" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>trou</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/veteran" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>veteran</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/vintage" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>vintage</span></a> <a href="https://piaille.fr/tags/%C5%93il" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>œil</span></a></p>
lsitongia<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.online/@davidsirota" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@<span>davidsirota</span></a></span> </p><p>Another of many reasons showing that the US is broken. A highway engineer designed the sharp turn with guardrails but they were never installed. </p><p>Give Republicans what they want. No federal government. <a href="https://mstdn.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> Let national-states work out their own trade agreements, health insurance, social safety net and regulations.</p>
David 🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️NB he/they<p>It’s mind blowing that people are seriously talking about <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/California" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>California</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> now and it’s not entirely impossible that <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> could cause the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USA" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USA</span></a> to split apart. The scary part is things are so chaotic I have no idea what our future will look like even a month from now. <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/USPol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPol</span></a></p>
Charming Malcontent<p>well.. I was planning on cutting back!</p><p>(stupid fat <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/qunt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>qunt</span></a> doesnt realize only true blue <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fabulousfornia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fabulousfornia</span></a> produces half-decent wines.. so this will fund our <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Secession</span></a> from the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/fascist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fascist</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/regime" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>regime</span></a>)</p>
Charming Malcontent<p>Hilarious, <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/China" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>China</span></a>'s response to <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/OrangeShitler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>OrangeShitler</span></a>'s tariffs is going to hit <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Murrican" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Murrican</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/farmers" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>farmers</span></a> really hard in all his <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/MAGAt" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>MAGAt</span></a> states.<br>Now then.. lets talk about the world's 5th largest economy <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Fabulousfornia" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Fabulousfornia</span></a>'s <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> from this sinking fascist shithole that was never really a <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Union" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Union</span></a></p>
maple<p>I'm just wondering, if would-be king <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Musk" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Musk</span></a> and his lap-dog <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Trump" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Trump</span></a> totally destroy the federal government from within, and destroy or demoralize the military, what is to keep the US states that disagree with him and his policies from <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a>?</p><p>There are many states that contribute more to the federal government than they give back. In the past the federal government returned a significant portion of what they receive to the states but if they stop doing that, why should the states send them anything to begin with? If the states have no say in anything, isn't that taxation without representation?</p><p>Of course Putin would be absolutely giddy if a true civil war broke out in the USA but if we are going to totally tear apart the government, sooner or later someone in a state government is going to figure out that they can tell the federal government to go to hell and get away with it. OR the feds will overreact and next thing you know it really will be a full civil war (actually more like Trump's forces being considered an occupying force). And you have to wonder how many members of the military would be loyal to Trump after what he has done lately. Of course anyone in the military could be replaced by a Trump stooge, but how many of those stooges would have any actual military experience?</p><p>I can't even begin to envision all the ways this could go bad. The US is only one month into Trump's pseudo-presidency (I sat that because it appears Musk is actually running the country while Trump plays golf and posts insane messages on social media) and already irreparable damage has been done. And no one outside the USA will ever come to their defense. In fact, if the USA ever declares war against <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/Canada" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Canada</span></a> all Canada would need to do is promise full citizenship to any American over 16 who does not have a criminal record, if they will come and serve in the Canadian armed forces (or in some type of support capacity for those unable to directly serve due to age or infirmity) for some period of time. I suspect many American citizens that do not want to live under a Trump dictatorship might just be more than willing to take them up on that offer, even if they could never return to the USA until a more sane administration regains control (if that ever happens).</p><p>Not that I want to see ANY of that happen, but Trump and Musk need to stop tearing through the US federal government like a damn pair of bulls in a china shop, and actually consider the possible unintended consequences of everything they are doing. But they will never do that because their egos are too inflated and they think they know everything, and Musk has the attitude that if he doesn't understand something, just break it and see what happens. 😟 </p><p><a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/uspol" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>uspol</span></a> <a href="https://hear-me.social/tags/USPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>USPolitics</span></a></p>
Jericho Jameston<p>Breaking <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a>: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/California" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>California</span></a> lawmakers clear way to put <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> from the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/US" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>US</span></a> on the ballot in upcoming <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/elections" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>elections</span></a>: <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/Calexit" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>Calexit</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/politics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>politics</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/government" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>government</span></a> <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/collapse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>collapse</span></a> <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-secede-2028-ballot-measure-allowed-to-get-signatures/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/</span><span class="invisible">california-secede-2028-ballot-measure-allowed-to-get-signatures/</span></a></p>
Dan Wentzel 🏳️‍🌈<p>For people laughing at this prospect, remember how states were dividing themselves into various "pacts" in 2020 because Trump's federal administration failed during the pandemic.</p><p>Who knows what California's relationship with the USA will look like in 4 years? @ktla.com </p><p><a href="https://ktla.com/news/california/would-californians-support-seceding-from-the-united-states/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">ktla.com/news/california/would</span><span class="invisible">-californians-support-seceding-from-the-united-states/</span></a></p><p><a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/California" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>California</span></a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/secession" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>secession</span></a> <a href="https://urbanists.social/tags/federalism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>federalism</span></a></p>