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Still using #Telegram and not the much securer #Threema?
Maybe this might help you 2 reconsider:
#Telegram owner and former #Russian #Tech Oligarch,
#PavelDurov "... was arrested at the Le Bourget airport outside of Paris in August 2024 and faces numerous charges related to his social network, including allowing terrorism, drug trafficking, fraud, money laundering, and child abuse content on Telegram. The founder of the messaging app 
faces up to 20 years in prison
."
@HistoPol better a decentralized system not in company hands
#SurveillanceState #Surveillance #Technology #Meta
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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True, however the most important criterion is that a replacement messenger app for #WhatsApp must have any chance at replacing #WhatsApp.
As a friend of mine phrased it here on Mastodon: "I have a hard time convincing my friend and family even to switch to [the known services,] #Signal or #Threema.
As...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... I've pointed out in an older thread 
here and Cory @pluralistic in a now famous speech about #Enshittification, there's the severe lock-in effect, the negative aspects of the #NetworkEffect.
There are #XMPP and #Matrix, the "ancient" and "obvious" #FOSS choices. I've never used them but from what I've read, they were never able to gain much market share and are...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... still relegated to the "nerd niche," maybe unjustly so by now, IDK. (?)
https://mstdn.social/@distopico/111007271703326651
As @kino put it succintly in that convo,
"At this point I'm not taking the open source == good (just coz) argument at face...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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....value anymore. The future of #Matrix always seems somehow, em.. unconfirmed? An interesting project. I wonder where it will go. There's been a LOT of #VC [#VentureCapital] funding up to now, one might assume some return is expected at some point. Maybe not though. I've run #Jabber servers in the past,...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... I still have one, but federated #XMPP just somehow can't seem to take hold outside of its own niche" .
If you wanted to dig down even further, you'd get to the point where you'd have to deal with #Protocols:
https://eattherich.club/@jmhorner/110991346559623491
A French 
librarian association made an...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... extensive analysis of alternatives about 2 years ago, most of which I had never heard of, despite the extensive discussions we've had here several times here in the #Fediverse (of which I can only still find one convo:
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110989244048659250
There are but 2 alternatives of that French market research, #Olvid and #DataBag, that still made it...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... our international discussion:
https://pleroma.iselfhost.com/objects/ea0bf992-d6f0-41c8-b71a-3129fa725f72
In conclusion, as all services using #US servers like signal have been compromised since the #CloudAct went into force,
"Since #Signal's entire traffic runs over the clouds of #Amazon [#AWS,] #Google, #Microsoft & #Cloudflare.
All US services...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
(8/n)
... can pick up your meta data directly from there, thanks to the [#US] #CloudACT:... "
... my conclusion has been that, despite the fact that, for years, it's encryption technology had been outdated...
https://schnaeppchenfuchs.com/news/threema-kritik-verschluesselung
... we should *still* rally around...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
(9/n)
... pushing #Threema for the general public, as it is the "least of all evil." This, in particular, as #WhatsApp owner #Meta is the worst/most leaky offender of them all.
The danger is not only immemt, but has been very real for many for some years, as the #ProjectAnalyticaSummit showed years after #Meta's #ProjectAnalyticaScandal in the wake...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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... of #Facebook's #CambridgeAnalyticaScandal:
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110536835544913854
No-one is safe from the FBI and the NSA anymore, as even during the #Biden Administration, illegal warrantless searches were frequent:
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/114024972369241754.
Even the #FourthEstate, not only in #LatinAmerica, but also the #US has been targeted;
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/113925430001498982:
...
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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...via@TheGuardian:
"#WhatsApp says journalists and civil society members were targets of #Israeli spyware,... #ParagonSolutions...1)Nearly 100 journalists and other members of civil society using WhatsApp, the popular messaging app owned by #Meta,...
It is way past midnight to stop using #Meta products 2).
2)
Or other #BigTech apps.
//
Which #Messenger To Replace the #DataKraken #WhatsApp with?
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Founded with American VC, #Israeli spyware firm #ParagonSolution seems to be coming full circle: the #US VC company AE Industrial Partners seems to have acquired it recently:
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/113925441768326458
...shortly after signing a $2m contract with the infamous #ICE:
https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/113925438035086371
-> continued
